Posts by cha ching

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Can you list watchtower articles that claim anything from the 'faithful slave' should be taken as from jehovah himself?

by EndofMysteries in

just a few wts that put to the effect anything from them should be taken as from jehovah himself and also with elders or being disfellowshipped, that it means jehovah himself is angry with them, that's it's punishment from him.

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cha ching

This is exactly their methodology. Exactly right Data Dog!

Amazing how we are all having the same exact thoughts! and feelings!

"TRUTH" !!!! Sickening to hear the word.

Can you speak it? NO!

Hear it? NO! You will be killed if you even desire it!

Thank you so much Leolaia for all of your boiling it down, sorting their contortions out, and THEN, unlike the WT, giving references.

Thank all of you for your references, quotes, links. It takes so much time, but I want you to know that all of the hard work done by all of the people, friends from even years ago ARE appreciated by people like my family & I years later.

Thank you!

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The reason why Jehovah's Witnesses are not false prophets

by 70wksfyrs in

this weeks km disscusses the topic of why jehovah's witnesses are not false prophets.. on page 136 and 137 of the reasoning book, it asks and answers the following question:.

have not jehovahs witnesses made errors in their teachings?.

jehovahs witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.

cha ching

Did the Apostles make mistakes? yes. Did they make you agree with them? and disfellowship you if you disagreed? Did they print books on their theories, distribute them, make book study groups, and make people answer questions from the paragraphs that they made up and "ooops, later had to change?" Nope. Nope, nope, nope.

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1914 to 1975

by Bob_NC in

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back when i was preaching that this generation of 1914 would by no means pass away, that they were all very old, having been old enough in 1914 to understand the significance of the events of that year...it was just me running ahead.

i made it all up!

running ahead with ideas of my own.

cha ching

and that was before the internet, and the cell phones, and facebook! Wow!! You guys were smart!

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I'm not going back...finally

by lostinthought in

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it has been several years since my awakening.

since then i have stopped pioneering, stopped doing temp work at bethel, stopped field service (at the most, i went out a few hours a month for the last couple of months), my meeting attendance has been around 50 percent or so.

i have decided not to go back.

cha ching

Mr. Fool.... Where was that quote/ pic from?

"no one should be... forced to choose between his beliefs and his family"? thx... cha ching

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Overlapping Generations: A wacky kool-aid thread

by RayPublisher in

another wacky kool aid thread for your reading pleasure from the hardcore dubbs on jw talk dot net is here if you want to read it:.

they wax philosophical, they curse this horrible old world, they gently try to project how soon the big a will come, and then swoon when someone quotes a tidbit from a gb member that they overheard.

warning: those with weak stomachs do not read!.

cha ching

Finkelstein: "Commerciallly inspired"....

Somehow that hits the nail on the head, doesn't it?

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Overlapping Generations: A wacky kool-aid thread

by RayPublisher in

another wacky kool aid thread for your reading pleasure from the hardcore dubbs on jw talk dot net is here if you want to read it:.

they wax philosophical, they curse this horrible old world, they gently try to project how soon the big a will come, and then swoon when someone quotes a tidbit from a gb member that they overheard.

warning: those with weak stomachs do not read!.

cha ching

This is my grease board moment I had this morning....

This Generation…… Involves Overlapping of Apostles Lives?

“We just now realized he was talking to the disciples, so it means their lives overlapped, in “overlapping generations”

OK, so you want it that way.

How long did the first, “by no means will this generation pass away” last?

40 years.

So, let’s go to “How long did the apostles live?” John writes “Revelation” in 96 – 98, must die shortly after.

If you want to say “the apostles ‘overlapping lives’” then it ends shortly after 96-98?

PLUS, let’s not forget, or be distracted by all the WTBS’s B.S., that it had already happened!!!
Jerusalem had already been destroyed by 70 C.E.

Are we suppose to forget that?

If we are “looking back at history,” to get the “context,” then let’s “look back” at reality.

The truth is soooooo simple.

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Just reading some of the latest brochure

by therevealer in

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who are doing jehovah's will today?.

something i found a bit strange - that is the title of the brochure but on page three it asks - what is god's will?

and it says "god wants us to live in peace and happiness on a paradise earth forever!".

cha ching

So, are the annointed growing at a higher percentage of increase than the publishers?

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Being pressured and getting increasingly stressed.

by NBird in

hello, i'm a 17 year old born in and i'm done with this religion.

one hundred percent.

i came to the conclusion a year ago that i wanted to leave.

cha ching

How about saying something like this? "Mom, I don't think I am going to study with brother so & so anymore. He is trying to live my life for me, by setting goals for me, I want to set my own"

"Getting baptized is like getting married, and I want to make sure that I am doing it because I want to, not because of pressure."

and like LostGeneration said, and I totallllly agree.... "Jesus wasn't baptized until 30, and he was a perfect human being.. I am going to follow his example & wait. God doesn't want me to do things because of pressure from other people."

Getting a job is good too! Yep, good idea... or, take some extra college classes at night? (When you are in high school, at least where I live, classes count double for you.. They count toward high school graduation, and you get college credit using the same amount of time & energy)

As all have said before me, do not get baptized.....

wishing you well, hang in there!

cha ching ;-)

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Protesting

by zound in

is watchtower baiting apostates with this new awake?.

"is protest the answer?".

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201307/is-protest-the-answer/.

cha ching

Apostates Protesting?

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"Worldly people don't love the same as Jehovah's Witnesses"

by Comatose in

in a conversation with my mum she said, "son the friends love you and care about you so much.

they would die for you.

that's something you don't find in the world.

cha ching

I am coming to the sad reallization that there really is no "reality" with J.W's. Within their group, all can be comfy and cozy, but put them out to view by "the world," and their comfort zone disappears.

So many people, for so many years have said "until they see it for themselves," until "it happens to them," there will be no helpling.

Most are actually cold hearted... I say that because, altho I had so many friends, not many will even discuss 607, or "if they are led by God's spirit, why are there mistakes?" If someone died because they refused to be "cannibals" and get an "organ transplant," and the next day "the policy" changed, the only thing you will hear is "at least they died loyal.' That is psychopathic. When you cannot have empathy. When you cannot get mad, because you are "not supposed to or you have a bad attitude, or maybe now YOU are an apostate" because you see the hypocrisy.

Do the "Governing Body" care about pedophile cases? No. Psychopaths are very good at faking emotion, but when it comes down to it, it's not even about the money they lose, it's about "their image." Their "godly image."

They collect their jar of hearts, who do they think they are?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM